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Indigenous source note. These city-market estimates are derived from certified B02020 person counts through the governed ZIP/ZCTA bridge. They describe AIAN-alone survey responses, not tribal enrollment. Markets with incomplete population coverage are excluded from these rankings. B02021 group tallies are not used.

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People reporting this Indigenous identity in the Census American Indian and Alaska Native alone category. This is a survey response, not tribal enrollment.

2024 ACS five-year estimates · Census table B02020 · Variable B02020_030E

Each row is one city market. Local share compares this estimate with all residents of that market. Communities can overlap; do not add their counts. These rankings do not affect the Follow Your Heart Index.

613 city markets · ranked by largest community

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Latin American Indian / All other Latin American Indian (with only one group reported) (AIAN alone) — largest community
National rankCity marketEstimated peopleLocal share
1New York, New York5,7310.07%
2Los Angeles, California4,8220.13%
3Chicago, Illinois1,9670.07%
4Houston, Texas1,6060.05%
5San Antonio, Texas1,3100.07%
6Nashville, Tennessee1,0820.16%
7Baldwin Park, California1,0711.51%
8El Monte, California1,0561.24%
9Dallas, Texas1,0350.08%
10Las Vegas, Nevada1,0220.06%
11Oxnard, California8590.40%
12Pasco, Washington8470.97%
13Fresno, California8170.13%
14Phoenix, Arizona7860.05%
15Oakland, California7110.18%
16Long Beach, California6830.15%
17Baltimore, Maryland6020.10%
18Austin, Texas5960.05%
19Oklahoma City, Oklahoma5900.11%
20Gaithersburg, Maryland5510.38%
21San Jose, California5460.05%
22Indianapolis, Indiana5120.06%
23Bakersfield, California4990.09%
24Denver, Colorado4940.06%
25Eugene, Oregon4680.22%
26Durham, North Carolina4610.15%
27Tampa, Florida4430.08%
28Wichita, Kansas4320.10%
29Reading, Pennsylvania4300.20%
30Silver Spring, Maryland4140.13%
31Peoria, Arizona3960.19%
32Lakewood, New Jersey3950.28%
33Stockton, California3920.10%
34Alexandria, Virginia3880.19%
35Port Arthur, Texas3800.68%
36Huntington Park, California3720.54%
37Inglewood, California3680.29%
38Downey, California3570.32%
39Desert Hot Springs, California3490.68%
40Albuquerque, New Mexico3270.05%
41San Diego, California3240.02%
41Kansas City, Missouri3240.06%
43Woodland, California3230.48%
44Cathedral City, California3220.62%
45Fayetteville, Arkansas3150.27%
46El Paso, Texas2900.04%
47Santa Barbara, California2870.23%
48Oceanside, California2820.14%
49Woodbridge, Virginia2790.13%
50Salinas, California2760.14%
50Philadelphia, Pennsylvania2760.02%
52Boston, Massachusetts2730.04%
53North Las Vegas, Nevada2700.10%
54Garland, Texas2690.11%
55El Cajon, California2600.15%
56Pomona, California2590.17%
57Lancaster, California2480.13%
58Mclean, Virginia2400.40%
59Lakewood, Colorado2390.13%
59Washington, District of Columbia2390.04%
61Spring Valley, California2350.33%
61Orlando, Florida2350.02%
63Tucson, Arizona2340.03%
64Miami, Florida2320.03%
65Sacramento, California2300.03%
66San Marcos, Texas2210.25%
67Visalia, California2170.13%
68Santa Ana, California2120.07%
69West Covina, California2110.19%
70Escondido, California2100.12%
71Bradenton, Florida2090.09%
71West Jordan, Utah2090.17%
73Bell, California2080.22%
73Charlotte, North Carolina2080.02%
75Hawthorne, California2060.22%
76Palmdale, California2050.11%
76Trenton, New Jersey2050.10%
78Elizabeth, New Jersey2020.15%
79La Habra, California1980.29%
79San Bernardino, California1980.08%
81Aurora, Illinois1960.10%
82Rancho Cordova, California1940.20%
83The Hammocks, Florida1910.35%
84Riverside, California1880.05%
85Newark, New Jersey1870.06%
86Fairfield, California1850.15%
86Gallatin, Tennessee1850.29%
88Homestead, Florida1840.09%
89Florence Graham, California1830.33%
90Alvin, Texas1790.34%
91Panama City, Florida1770.17%
92Puyallup, Washington1720.11%
93Berwyn, Illinois1710.27%
94Fort Worth, Texas1700.02%
95San Jacinto, California1680.29%
95South San Francisco, California1680.26%
95Georgetown, Texas1680.13%
98Shoreline, Washington1650.15%
99Coconut Creek, Florida1640.32%
100Ontario, California1620.09%
101East Los Angeles, California1610.15%
101Franklin, Tennessee1610.13%
103Compton, California1600.12%
103Naples, Florida1600.05%
105Milwaukee, Wisconsin1580.03%
106Spring, Texas1570.04%
107Whittier, California1520.08%
108San Leandro, California1460.14%
108West Valley City, Utah1460.11%
110Mcallen, Texas1450.10%
111Lake Elsinore, California1440.16%
112Burnsville, Minnesota1400.22%
113Thornton, Colorado1390.08%
113Omaha, Nebraska1390.02%
113Middletown, New York1390.20%
116Aurora, Colorado1380.03%
116Des Moines, Iowa1380.06%
116Los Lunas, New Mexico1380.27%
119Chandler, Arizona1370.05%
119Watsonville, California1370.17%
121Pasadena, Texas1360.09%
122Antioch, California1330.11%
122Gilroy, California1330.20%
124Mesa, Arizona1320.02%
124Elgin, Illinois1320.11%
124South Bend, Indiana1320.09%
127Brooklyn Park, Minnesota1290.20%
128Anaheim, California1270.04%
128Miramar, Florida1270.06%
130Santa Clarita, California1260.05%
131Modesto, California1240.05%
131Tulare, California1240.14%
131West New York, New Jersey1240.19%
134Alhambra, California1220.15%
134Lakewood, California1220.15%
134Memphis, Tennessee1220.02%
137Merced, California1180.10%
138Tigard, Oregon1160.13%
138Lewisville, Texas1160.14%
138Salt Lake City, Utah1160.05%
141Waukegan, Illinois1150.12%
141Annapolis, Maryland1150.12%
143Moreno Valley, California1120.05%
143Tulsa, Oklahoma1120.03%
145Lynwood, California1110.17%
146Colton, California1100.19%
146Coon Rapids, Minnesota1100.17%
148Glendale, California1080.06%
148Orem, Utah1080.11%
150Albany, New York1070.07%
151Ocala, Florida1060.04%
152Olympia, Washington1050.08%
153Allentown, Pennsylvania1040.06%
153Morrisville, Pennsylvania1040.19%
155Laredo, Texas1030.04%
156Costa Mesa, California1010.09%
156Santa Maria, California1010.07%
158San Francisco, California1000.01%
159Paramount, California980.19%
159Upper Arlington, Ohio980.15%
159Odessa, Texas980.06%
162Katy, Texas970.02%
163Chantilly, Virginia960.16%
164Chino, California940.10%
164Gardena, California940.11%
164Greenville, South Carolina940.04%
164Annandale, Virginia940.16%
168Hayward, California930.05%
169Livermore, California920.10%
169Clearwater, Florida920.05%
171Lincoln, Nebraska910.03%
172Vista, California900.08%
172Portage, Michigan900.18%
172Wilmington, North Carolina900.04%
172Madison, Wisconsin900.03%
176Fremont, California880.04%
176Lakeland, Florida880.03%
178Denton, Texas860.07%
179Santa Clara, California850.07%
179Edinburg, Texas850.05%
181Birmingham, Alabama840.04%
181Cockrell Hill, Texas840.11%
181Mission, Texas840.11%
184Waterbury, Connecticut820.07%
184Orland Park, Illinois820.12%
184Arlington, Virginia820.03%
187Fort Collins, Colorado810.04%
188Chula Vista, California800.03%
188Douglasville, Georgia800.07%
188Portland, Oregon800.01%
191Cherry Hill, New Jersey780.10%
191Rosenberg, Texas780.07%
193Bloomington, Indiana770.06%
193Malden, Massachusetts770.12%
195Atlanta, Georgia760.01%
195Norfolk, Virginia760.03%
197Carlsbad, California750.07%
198Henderson, Nevada730.02%
198Las Cruces, New Mexico730.05%
198Vancouver, Washington730.02%
201Tempe, Arizona720.04%
201Rockford, Illinois720.04%
201Everett, Massachusetts720.14%
201Albany, Oregon720.11%
205Pico Rivera, California710.12%
205Overland Park, Kansas710.04%
205Slidell, Louisiana710.07%
208Yuma, Arizona700.05%
208Temecula, California700.06%
208Sioux City, Iowa700.08%
211Joliet, Illinois690.06%
212Harrisburg, Pennsylvania680.04%
213Berkeley, California670.05%
213Walnut Creek, California670.07%
213West Hartford, Connecticut670.11%
213Hialeah, Florida670.02%
213Corpus Christi, Texas670.02%
213Irving, Texas670.03%
219Dacula, Georgia660.13%
220Decatur, Alabama650.10%
220Cincinnati, Ohio650.01%
222National City, California640.11%
222Yuba City, California640.08%
222Pensacola, Florida640.02%
222Minneapolis, Minnesota640.02%
226Springdale, Arkansas630.06%
226Gainesville, Florida630.03%
226Lake Worth Beach, Florida630.05%
226Canton, Georgia630.05%
226Reno, Nevada630.02%
231San Marcos, California620.06%
232Brunswick, Georgia610.09%
232Virginia Beach, Virginia610.01%
234Fontana, California600.03%
234New Britain, Connecticut600.08%
234Cleveland, Ohio600.02%
234Mesquite, Texas600.04%
238Buckeye, Arizona590.05%
238Cicero, Illinois590.07%
238Kansas City, Kansas590.04%
238Lawrence, Massachusetts590.07%
238Erie, Pennsylvania590.03%
238Arlington, Texas590.02%
244San Mateo, California580.06%
244Titusville, Florida580.10%
244South Huntington, New York580.09%
244Pearland, Texas580.04%
244Kirkland, Washington580.06%
249Alameda, California570.07%
249Roseville, California570.04%
249Bridgeport, Connecticut570.04%
249Fort Wayne, Indiana570.02%
249Sugar Land, Texas570.03%
254Saint Petersburg, Florida560.02%
255Camarillo, California550.07%
255Huntington Beach, California550.03%
255Toms River, New Jersey550.03%
255Mount Vernon, New York550.08%
259Stamford, Connecticut540.04%
259Union City, New Jersey540.08%
261Covina, California530.07%
262Madera, California520.05%
262Victorville, California520.03%
262Raleigh, North Carolina520.01%
262Eau Claire, Wisconsin520.06%
266Grand Junction, Colorado510.04%
266Broken Arrow, Oklahoma510.04%
266Green Bay, Wisconsin510.04%
269Montebello, California500.08%
269San Gabriel, California500.08%
269Santa Cruz, California500.05%
269New Bedford, Massachusetts500.05%
269Clearfield, Utah500.07%
269Seattle, Washington500.01%
269Yakima, Washington500.04%
276Eastvale, California490.07%
276Santa Rosa, California490.02%
276Clarksville, Tennessee490.02%
276Eagle Mountain, Utah490.09%
280Simi Valley, California480.04%
280South Gate, California480.05%
282Torrance, California470.03%
282Matthews, North Carolina470.06%
282Norristown, Pennsylvania470.05%
282Lubbock, Texas470.02%
282Provo, Utah470.04%
282Richland, Washington470.07%
288Dalton, Georgia460.06%
288Kentwood, Michigan460.04%
288Beavercreek, Ohio460.07%
291Wilmington, Delaware450.02%
291Plymouth, Massachusetts450.07%
291Eden Prairie, Minnesota450.07%
291Springfield, Missouri450.02%
291Plano, Texas450.02%
296Fort Lauderdale, Florida440.02%
296Caldwell, Idaho440.06%
296Detroit, Michigan440.01%
296Lockport, New York440.09%
300Tustin, California430.05%
300Acworth, Georgia430.04%
300New Orleans, Louisiana430.01%
303Arcadia, California420.07%
303Gresham, Oregon420.05%
305Colorado Springs, Colorado410.01%
305Sparks, Nevada410.03%
305Hamilton, Ohio410.03%
305Bryan, Texas410.04%
305Lake Stevens, Washington410.08%
310Danbury, Connecticut400.05%
311Pueblo, Colorado390.02%
311Shawnee, Kansas390.05%
311Rockville, Maryland390.03%
311Brockton, Massachusetts390.04%
311Aubrey, Texas390.06%
311Auburn, Washington390.03%
311Renton, Washington390.02%
318Perris, California380.03%
318Manhattan, Kansas380.06%
318Louisville, Kentucky380.00%
318Burleson, Texas380.04%
318Charlottesville, Virginia380.03%
323Fort Myers, Florida370.01%
323Grand Rapids, Michigan370.02%
323Newburgh, New York370.07%
323Cheyenne, Wyoming370.04%
327Westminster, Colorado360.02%
327Sandy Springs, Georgia360.03%
327Quincy, Massachusetts360.04%
327Holland, Michigan360.04%
331Pasadena, California350.02%
331Commerce City, Colorado350.05%
331Boca Raton, Florida350.01%
331Fort Pierce, Florida350.03%
331Naperville, Illinois350.02%
331Kalamazoo, Michigan350.03%
331Binghamton, New York350.04%
338Ormond Beach, Florida340.05%
338Rochester, New York340.01%
338Monroe, North Carolina340.04%
341Valparaiso, Indiana330.04%
341Joplin, Missouri330.05%
341Wichita Falls, Texas330.03%
341Sterling, Virginia330.04%
345Corona, California320.02%
345Deerfield Beach, Florida320.05%
345West Little River, Florida320.04%
345Jersey City, New Jersey320.01%
345New Brunswick, New Jersey320.06%
345Taylorsville, Utah320.04%
351Marysville, Washington310.04%
352Rancho Cucamonga, California300.02%
352Sunrise, Florida300.04%
352Beaverton, Oregon300.01%
352Henrico, Virginia300.01%
356Hacienda Heights, California290.05%
356Mishawaka, Indiana290.05%
356Columbus, Ohio290.00%
356Burien, Washington290.05%
360Garden Grove, California280.02%
360Norwalk, California280.03%
360East Lansing, Michigan280.04%
360Utica, New York280.04%
360Roseburg, Oregon280.05%
360Cleburne, Texas280.05%
366Bessemer, Alabama270.04%
366Scottsdale, Arizona270.01%
366Highland, California270.05%
366Sunnyvale, California270.02%
366Hamden, Connecticut270.04%
366Pontiac, Michigan270.04%
366Bend, Oregon270.02%
366Medford, Oregon270.03%
366Salem, Oregon270.01%
366Amarillo, Texas270.01%
366Vienna, Virginia270.04%
366Lynnwood, Washington270.02%
378Jurupa Valley, California260.02%
378Redlands, California260.03%
378Jacksonville, Florida260.00%
378Twin Falls, Idaho260.04%
378Santa Fe, New Mexico260.02%
378Brownsville, Texas260.01%
384Brandon, Florida250.03%
384Topeka, Kansas250.02%
384Bel Air, Maryland250.04%
384Langley Park, Maryland250.05%
384Ballwin, Missouri250.03%
384Bayonne, New Jersey250.03%
384Paterson, New Jersey250.02%
384New Rochelle, New York250.03%
384Texarkana, Texas250.04%
384Appleton, Wisconsin250.02%
394Glendale, Arizona240.01%
394Bellflower, California240.03%
394Orange, California240.02%
394Rosemead, California240.04%
394Ewa Beach, Hawaii240.03%
394Rio Rancho, New Mexico240.02%
394Mechanicsville, Virginia240.03%
401Apopka, Florida230.02%
401North Miami, Florida230.02%
401Sebring, Florida230.04%
401Winter Park, Florida230.03%
401Winston Salem, North Carolina230.01%
401Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania230.00%
407Shelby Township, Michigan220.03%
407Lancaster, Pennsylvania220.01%
407Lakewood, Washington220.03%
410New Haven, Connecticut210.02%
410Saint Augustine, Florida210.01%
410Tamarac, Florida210.02%
410Town 'n' Country, Florida210.02%
410Bloomington, Illinois210.02%
410Springfield, Massachusetts210.01%
416Laguna Niguel, California200.03%
416Parker, Colorado200.02%
416Zephyrhills, Florida200.03%
416Grants Pass, Oregon200.03%
420Carson, California190.02%
420Redwood City, California190.02%
420Ventura, California190.02%
420Castle Rock, Colorado190.03%
420Sanford, Florida190.02%
420Ames, Iowa190.03%
420Germantown, Maryland190.02%
420Edmond, Oklahoma190.01%
420Oregon City, Oregon190.03%
420Sumter, South Carolina190.02%
420Pharr, Texas190.02%
420Rowlett, Texas190.03%
432Buena Park, California180.02%
432Rocklin, California180.02%
432Lilburn, Georgia180.03%
432Macon, Georgia180.01%
432Glen Burnie, Maryland180.02%
432Union, New Jersey180.03%
432Moore, Oklahoma180.03%
432Beaufort, South Carolina180.03%
432Greer, South Carolina180.02%
432Simpsonville, South Carolina180.02%
432Dayton, Texas180.02%
432Huntsville, Texas180.02%
432Round Rock, Texas180.01%
432Bonney Lake, Washington180.03%
432Kennewick, Washington180.02%
447Mountain View, California170.02%
447Marietta, Georgia170.01%
447Boise, Idaho170.01%
447Ann Arbor, Michigan170.01%
447North Bergen Township, New Jersey170.03%
447White Plains, New York170.02%
453Anchorage, Alaska160.01%
453Avondale, Arizona160.02%
453Vacaville, California160.01%
453Delray Beach, Florida160.01%
453Kissimmee, Florida160.01%
453Columbus, Georgia160.01%
453Hammond, Indiana160.02%
453League City, Texas160.02%
453Waxahachie, Texas160.02%
462Flagstaff, Arizona150.02%
462Indio, California150.01%
462Haines City, Florida150.03%
462Idaho Falls, Idaho150.01%
462Nampa, Idaho150.01%
462Framingham, Massachusetts150.02%
462Saginaw, Michigan150.01%
462Ypsilanti, Michigan150.01%
462East Orange, New Jersey150.02%
462Lorain, Ohio150.02%
462Manassas, Virginia150.01%
462Reston, Virginia150.02%
462Port Orchard, Washington150.02%
475Hartford, Connecticut140.01%
475Campbell, Florida140.02%
475New Port Richey, Florida140.01%
475Owensboro, Kentucky140.02%
475Cambridge, Massachusetts140.01%
475Taunton, Massachusetts140.03%
475Hattiesburg, Mississippi140.02%
475Niagara Falls, New York140.02%
475Corvallis, Oregon140.02%
475Greensburg, Pennsylvania140.02%
475Hanover, Pennsylvania140.02%
475Longview, Texas140.01%
487Elk Grove, California130.01%
487Encinitas, California130.02%
487Fullerton, California130.01%
487Sarasota, Florida130.00%
487Duluth, Georgia130.01%
487Snellville, Georgia130.01%
487Lawrence, Kansas130.01%
487Frederick, Maryland130.01%
487Hagerstown, Maryland130.02%
487Missoula, Montana130.01%
497Madison, Alabama120.01%
497Maricopa, Arizona120.02%
497Hollywood, Florida120.01%
497Longwood, Florida120.02%
497Milton, Florida120.02%
497Valrico, Florida120.02%
497Saint Paul, Minnesota120.00%
497Carson City, Nevada120.02%
497Fort Mill, South Carolina120.01%
497Killeen, Texas120.01%
507Huntsville, Alabama110.00%
507Delano, California110.02%
507Lake Forest, California110.01%
507Milpitas, California110.01%
507Pittsburg, California110.01%
507Tracy, California110.01%
507Ellicott City, Maryland110.01%
507Hillsboro, Oregon110.01%
507Seguin, Texas110.02%
507Lynchburg, Virginia110.01%
517Daly City, California100.01%
517Mission Viejo, California100.01%
517Miami Beach, Florida100.01%
517Riverview, Florida100.01%
517Greensboro, North Carolina100.00%
517Middletown, Ohio100.01%
517Midwest City, Oklahoma100.02%
517Chattanooga, Tennessee100.01%
517Lebanon, Tennessee100.01%
526Bentonville, Arkansas90.01%
526Fallbrook, California90.02%
526Upland, California90.01%
526Westminster, California90.01%
526Newark, Delaware90.01%
526Cocoa, Florida90.01%
526Poinciana, Florida90.01%
526Honolulu, Hawaii90.00%
526West Lafayette, Indiana90.01%
526Apex, North Carolina90.01%
526Statesville, North Carolina90.01%
526Norman, Oklahoma90.01%
526Cedar Park, Texas90.01%
526Lehi, Utah90.01%
540Little Rock, Arkansas80.00%
540Goleta, California80.02%
540San Luis Obispo, California80.01%
540Yucaipa, California80.01%
540Seminole, Florida80.01%
540Athens, Georgia80.01%
540Kenner, Louisiana80.01%
540Bethesda, Maryland80.01%
540Clifton, New Jersey80.01%
540Freehold, New Jersey80.01%
540Richardson, Texas80.01%
540Falls Church, Virginia80.01%
552Jonesboro, Arkansas70.01%
552Fountain Valley, California70.01%
552Union City, California70.01%
552Littleton, Colorado70.01%
552Lehigh Acres, Florida70.01%
552The Crossings, Florida70.01%
552Savannah, Georgia70.00%
552Fishers, Indiana70.01%
552Bowie, Maryland70.01%
552Williamsville, New York70.01%
552Yonkers, New York70.00%
552Akron, Ohio70.00%
552York, Pennsylvania70.00%
552Granbury, Texas70.01%
552Sandy, Utah70.01%
552Herndon, Virginia70.01%
568Redding, California60.01%
568Thousand Oaks, California60.00%
568Coral Springs, Florida60.01%
568Columbia, Missouri60.00%
568Asheboro, North Carolina60.01%
568Youngstown, Ohio60.01%
568North Richland Hills, Texas60.01%
575Lodi, California50.01%
575San Ramon, California50.01%
575Gary, Indiana50.01%
575Lexington, Kentucky50.00%
575Somerville, Massachusetts50.01%
575Grove City, Ohio50.01%
575Providence, Rhode Island50.00%
582Gilbert, Arizona40.00%
582Burbank, California40.00%
582Carmichael, California40.01%
582Rialto, California40.00%
582Boulder, Colorado40.00%
582Lauderhill, Florida40.01%
582Tallahassee, Florida40.00%
582Waipahu, Hawaii40.01%
582Houma, Louisiana40.00%
582Brick, New Jersey40.01%
582Syracuse, New York40.00%
582Elyria, Ohio40.01%
582Kyle, Texas40.01%
582Missouri City, Texas40.00%
582Temple, Texas40.00%
582Tyler, Texas40.00%
598Richmond, California30.00%
598Norwalk, Connecticut30.00%
598Fountainbleau, Florida30.00%
598Spring Hill, Florida30.00%
598Independence, Missouri30.00%
598Saint Peters, Missouri30.00%
598Collierville, Tennessee30.01%
605Chico, California20.00%
605Pompano Beach, Florida20.00%
605Brookline, Massachusetts20.00%
605Coatesville, Pennsylvania20.00%
605Waco, Texas20.00%
610Brownsville, Florida10.00%
610Port Orange, Florida10.00%
610Weston, Florida10.00%
610Lafayette, Indiana10.00%
Read the Census measures and source notes

Explore where people share an ancestry, origin, or birthplace. Each community uses one specific Census measure. The source note tells you which question was used.

A person may appear in more than one community. Do not add these counts together. Community information does not change the Follow Your Heart Index or any of its five scores.

Only the default measure above has rankings on this page. Other measures are listed for context and are never combined with it. A blank or absent result is not evidence that a community is absent.

Separate available measures
MeasureCensus labelTable / variableYear
Indigenous identity (AIAN alone) (shown above)Latin American Indian / All other Latin American Indian (with only one group reported) (AIAN alone)B02020 / B02020_030E2024

City markets group ZIP areas assigned to a primary city and state. They are not official city limits. The community publication includes 1,294 eligible city markets; each community appears only where a positive estimate is published.

Source: U.S. Census Bureau, American Community Survey, 2024 five-year estimates. These city-market estimates are derived from the certified source records; they do not show margins of error or support claims of statistically significant differences between places.